Bruce
01-16-2004, 11:24 PM
We have Low Impedace (Peak and Hold), and Hi Impedance (Saturated).
The P+H's have a coil resistance of about 2 ohms (in the port injector series), and the Sat.'s about 12.
The reason for the term Peak and Hold, is that thru clever current sensing, a P+H can initially use 4 Amps, and then be throttled back to 1 Amp., once it's opened. Allowing it to draw all that extra current allows for the magnetic field to build and open the injector must quicker. And with the larger injectors, the opening speed of the injector is a critical issue. You want it to be fast, and repeatible. Erratic injector openings can be a major PITB to work with tune wise, over the years the chip guys have figured this out. And the quality of injectors themselves have improved over the years. Now, with the large injectors, also means heavier valving in the injector to turn the fuel on. So they all seem to be kind of lazy on the low end of the Pulse Widths, and this shows itself in them not being as linear in flow as the smaller injectors, at short Pulse Widths.
Then the P+Hs are designed to be operated at 1-5 msec PWs, and the Saturated at 2-10.
Now, there are several ways to use an injector at Wide Open Throttle.
One is to just run it static, ie just turn it on all the time. The other is to follow good design procedures, and run it at a max Duty Cycle of about 85%, and some will go 90%, but at anything just over 90%, you can get to the stage of at higher RPM there isn't enough time for the injector to fully turn off, so the internals of the injector just start to chatter. Problem, is that when it chatters, it stays OFF TOO LONG. Meaning Lean. Since this is a physical characteristic of the injector, you won't see any tell tale signs on a Scanner other then a possible trace amount (or worse) amount of detonation. The physical symtoms of this are blown headgaskets.
If you choise to run a large enough injector so as not to run them static, then you have to actually work on getting the fuel curve right. It's actually easy, but kind of hard on the car just make passes, and work on the % Power Enrichment vs RPM table. For me, I just fire up the ecm bench, and tinker with the table until I get the DC where I like it, then it's a matter of adding boost until I get the AFR I want.
On the GNs, for a *Hot Stocker*, 50s will do. And you might need Water Injection to get up past 16-18 PSI.
Anything more then Hot, and you need 55s.
72s get you into having some really good control of the injector, and fuel curve.
One secret to safe high boost numbers is accuracy in you fuel curve, and timing. Boost is your friend, conservative timing, and enough fuel works.
A real engine saver is just biting the bullet, and installing a decent Wide Band.
The P+H's have a coil resistance of about 2 ohms (in the port injector series), and the Sat.'s about 12.
The reason for the term Peak and Hold, is that thru clever current sensing, a P+H can initially use 4 Amps, and then be throttled back to 1 Amp., once it's opened. Allowing it to draw all that extra current allows for the magnetic field to build and open the injector must quicker. And with the larger injectors, the opening speed of the injector is a critical issue. You want it to be fast, and repeatible. Erratic injector openings can be a major PITB to work with tune wise, over the years the chip guys have figured this out. And the quality of injectors themselves have improved over the years. Now, with the large injectors, also means heavier valving in the injector to turn the fuel on. So they all seem to be kind of lazy on the low end of the Pulse Widths, and this shows itself in them not being as linear in flow as the smaller injectors, at short Pulse Widths.
Then the P+Hs are designed to be operated at 1-5 msec PWs, and the Saturated at 2-10.
Now, there are several ways to use an injector at Wide Open Throttle.
One is to just run it static, ie just turn it on all the time. The other is to follow good design procedures, and run it at a max Duty Cycle of about 85%, and some will go 90%, but at anything just over 90%, you can get to the stage of at higher RPM there isn't enough time for the injector to fully turn off, so the internals of the injector just start to chatter. Problem, is that when it chatters, it stays OFF TOO LONG. Meaning Lean. Since this is a physical characteristic of the injector, you won't see any tell tale signs on a Scanner other then a possible trace amount (or worse) amount of detonation. The physical symtoms of this are blown headgaskets.
If you choise to run a large enough injector so as not to run them static, then you have to actually work on getting the fuel curve right. It's actually easy, but kind of hard on the car just make passes, and work on the % Power Enrichment vs RPM table. For me, I just fire up the ecm bench, and tinker with the table until I get the DC where I like it, then it's a matter of adding boost until I get the AFR I want.
On the GNs, for a *Hot Stocker*, 50s will do. And you might need Water Injection to get up past 16-18 PSI.
Anything more then Hot, and you need 55s.
72s get you into having some really good control of the injector, and fuel curve.
One secret to safe high boost numbers is accuracy in you fuel curve, and timing. Boost is your friend, conservative timing, and enough fuel works.
A real engine saver is just biting the bullet, and installing a decent Wide Band.