converter?

[jtopdawg]

is anybody running the pts extreme converters? if so what kind of times are you running and how do you like it? is anybody ruinning tens with it? i have a te45a turbo and was in the hunt for a good converter while my engine is being built?

[Rubrburnr]

I have the 9x11 billet 3300 stall and love it. I haven't gone to the track yet but hopefully sooner than later. Go with them, they have awesome customer service :anbet: I haven't heard of any complaints about them. Give them a call or email them, your hunt is over...

[jtopdawg]

when you say 3300 is that on the foot brake or 3300 on a transbrake? :fragez:

[CHRIS718]

when you say 3300 is that on the foot brake or 3300 on a transbrake? :fragez:
the convertor in question is manufactured for pts and ckperformance as well as other by tcs in arizona.it is a very good piece.there is no difference between one and the other except for the price and the place you decide to purchase it from.if you plan on locking it up at wot with up to 450 horsepower,there is really no need for the more expensive and stouter billet cover piece.only if you are running BIGhorsepower.

[jmidolo]

is anybody running the pts extreme converters? if so what kind of times are you running and how do you like it? is anybody ruinning tens with it? i have a te45a turbo and was in the hunt for a good converter while my engine is being built?


45a, I would think you wouldn't want to go less than 3200 for sure. I have a t63e and run a billed 9x11 3200 and love it. Spool is great and it drives like a stock tc car....

[Rubrburnr]

Yeah what Chris817 said... :top:

[EightSecV6]

We are dealers for TCS as well and could probably save list members a couple bucks! We have run them on anything from stock to 700hp stage 2 cars LOCKED UP in O/D with no failures, lemmeknow if I can help you out. These were the guys who built the ORIGINAL 9/11 for Kenne-Bell, many years before the "other guys" existed.

[TTHOMP]

I wonder if that is why the 9x11's come in a TCS box ? :fragez:

[TType85]

We are dealers for TCS as well and could probably save list members a couple bucks! We have run them on anything from stock to 700hp stage 2 cars LOCKED UP in O/D with no failures, lemmeknow if I can help you out. These were the guys who built the ORIGINAL 9/11 for Kenne-Bell, many years before the "other guys" existed.


I had one of the "other guys" tell me his converter was not the same as the original Kenne Bell unit (which my friend is running in his 86 T-Type with no problems at all). When we had the trans redone in the car Kenne Bell told us to send it to TCS.

I guess the "other guy" was selling me a load of bull :wc:

*waits to be banned from the "other guys" board*

[Quickt]

911 is the trademark name for the TCS converter for years. I think the Vig. muti disk is a better unit in a fast car thats locking up on the big end. If its a mid 11s car I dont think it matters. TCS is a good company to deal with if there is a problem. The other guys can be a pain.

[TTHOMP]

what is up trans god? long time no talk.......... I thought I was the only one too ever have a problem w/ that other company you are mentioning..... I will give a disertation if you like :arco:

[humberto]

Order one from Chris at CKperformance.I have heard nothing but good things about these converters.Dont believe me just do a search on other sites and see for yourself. :applaus:

[WE4]

The 9X11 2004r converter was originally designed and built by TCS Performance and marketed by Kenne Bell, about 15 years ago. The converter that was produced then is considered "primative" by todays standards , so it is not even a concern anymore , but that is where it all started.

Everything stated here I can back up and if so desired, Rusty from TCS Performance will also.

Also the ONLY converter we are discussing here is the 27 spline 2004r/7004r 9X11 converter.
(All other products and parts, made and sold by, TCS Performance, are a totally separate issue. None of this pertains to them)

The 9X11 2004r converter is a very versatile piece. It comes in two versions, basically, and both have a stall from 1500 to 6500 upon desired application. Now, I DO NOT want this be an ad! No sales pitch. Fact. I want to educate everyone about this converter and it’s future.
A 2” single disc is the less expensive , very, durable piece that will hold 400 – 550 ft lbs of torque comfortably and lock well .
The Billet Carbon Fibre clutched 9X11 2004r is an awesome piece. We have run them in cars from 400 hp to 1250 hp. Very Versatile piece. Lots of r&d went into this converter, and with awesome results I might add.
Many success stories could be told by consumers I am sure.

Up until now this converter was primarily sold by PTS Xtreme and produced by TCS Performance with PTS having priority. TCS Performance would sell to the public and to other vendors, from time to time.

This all changed today. 1/22/04

I spoke with Rusty at TCS Performance and when he called, was very annoyed. I will not go into total detail, as he may, if he so desires.His decision. He was pissed and conveyed to me how things will work from now on.. Somehow, the Turbo Buick world has managed to piss off another quality product vendor and I was just thankful I could save the deal at all. He was ready to tell everyone , “no more ”, which would be a great loss to our performance and dependablility in a moderately priced converter. He was ready to tell the Buick world, “screw you”. I had to make some pretty heavy commitments to save this deal.

Effective 1/22/04

PTS Xtreme Transmissions will have 99% exclusive rights to this 9X11 2004r converter both in regular version or the Billet version. Not Art Carr, not CK Performance, Not ANYBODY anymore. We will provide this converter to wholesale vendors as well as direct to the public. Rusty and TCS Performance wants to deal with one vendor (PTS Xtreme) and distribute from there.
PTS Xtreme will provide any info desired and design combos for whatever the application is that is desired. We will continue to service and install this converter exclusively in our shop, and online and by request. Pricing is the same as before and what is listed on the website.

Rusty also stated the warranty has also changed:
1) 90 days from date of purchase on free restall….(customer pays all freight)
2) Converter will be warranteed for a period of 1 year from date of purchase from defects in material or workmanship. Not abuse, overheated, raced, cracked neck and or pump failure and any related damage to any transmissions installed within. ….(customer pays all freight)
3) Restalls within the 1 year warranty period would be at a discount rate. ….(customer pays all freight)
4) After 1 year, you own it.


Now, that other 1% is welcome to go direct to TCS Performance, if for some reason they are unhappy with the service and /or support provided by PTS Xtreme or just do not desire to deal with PTS Xtreme or just want to cut out the middle man, so to speak, this can be done. Just call TCS.....BUT....
TCS Performance pricing will be as follows:
Regular 9X11 2004r converter is $1000.00 and customer pays all freight.
Billet 9X11 2004r converter is $1500.00 and again customer pays all freight.
Warranty and restall will be , when you receive it, you own it.
He doesn’t want to deal with the Turbo Regal or 2004r guys direct.
To quote Rusty “If they do not like it, lick my balls”
*(PLEASE SEE THE EDIT NOTE AT BOTTOM OF THIS POST)*

Rusty has no problem talking to anybody about this as neither do I.

Rusty can be reached at:
TCS Performance
2180 College Drive
Lake Havasu City, Arizona 86403

www.TCSPerformance.com
email: info@tcsperformance.com attention Rusty Stewart
phone: 928-453-4020


I can be reached at:
PTS Xtreme Transmissions
5852 88th Street Suite #700
Sacramento Ca. 95828
www.PTSXTREME.com
email: the2004rperfcntr@aol.com attention Bruce
phone: 916-739-0510


Again, this wasn’t meant to demean or put anybody down. It was NOT meant to be an advertisement. There was no intention to sell just to inform.These are facts and the method in which this product will now be distributed.
Everything stated here can be confirmed with an email or a phone call.

OK I admit...
I was wrong. I wanted to convey exactly what Rusty said to me to relay exactly how upset and pissed he was. I should have used more couth and chose a better term to describe. (Than Lick my balls)
I stated what was stated to me and looking back, it was wrong. You guys are right. I should have softened it up and went from there. Me bad.
But like Chris and others have mentioned, haven't we all made or typed a statement that might have felt right at the time but maybe too harsh or outta line later?
Everythnig I stated in that post was correct. I didn't lie about anything. In fact so much I didn't lie, now I am apologizing for saying the absolute and not thinking and toning it down. For this I am sorry. I will not delete it or asterisk it as it is all over everywhere and that would not be right. Please understand the stress level and accept this explanation as it is intended.

Bruce
WE4
PTS XTREME

[EightSecV6]

WE still have a valid account for ALL converters with Rusty as of 15 mins. ago 14:15 EST. TCS does not wish to retail their converters over the counter as they always have, questions and tech support should be handled through distributors.
Thanks!

[jmidolo]

Rusty also stated the warranty has also changed:
1) 90 days from date of purchase on free restall….(customer pays all freight)
2) Converter will be warranteed for a period of 1 year from date of purchase from defects in material or workmanship. Not abuse, overheated, raced, cracked neck and or pump failure and any related damage to any transmissions installed within. ….(customer pays all freight)
3) Restalls within the 1 year warranty period would be at a discount rate. ….(customer pays all freight)
4) After 1 year, you own it..


I assume my original free restall and unconditional 1 yr warranty is still in effect on my billet 9x11 I got from you back in July though right? :fragez:

[WE4]

I assume my original free restall and unconditional 1 yr warranty is still in effect on my billet 9x11 I got from you back in July though right? :fragez:

I have to laugh. As I was typing the end of that, I thought, who is going to be the first to throw that in my face?
LOL

Joe?
Have I done you wrong yet? Ever?

That should answer that question.:D

[jmidolo]

I have to laugh. As I was typing the end of that, I thought, who is going to be the first to throw that in my face?
LOL

Joe?
Have I done you wrong yet? Ever?

That should answer that question.:D

Nope, ya haven't. Just making sure. Not that I would break anything as I haven't even moved the car since Ocotober 11. The year will be up and I'll have put less than 2k on it! LOL Had 7200miles when I put it in, car turned 8k when I parked it. :fly:

[CHRIS718]

we will still stock and sell the same tcs 9/11 convertors as we have been doing all along. the only difference is price and where you decide to spend your money.they all come from the same place and no vendor gets a better convertor than the other.this would be fraudulent and tcs is run by a very respectable team that would never allow this.there is no reason for anyone to worry.the warranty is still one year and a free restall and i dont see this changing for the remainder of the 2004 calender year or beyond.9/11s are $575 and $675 for the billet ones.the price will go up slightly over the next few months because of an increase in cost.

[EightSecV6]

we will still stock and sell the same tcs 9/11 convertors as we have been doing all along. the only difference is price and where you decide to spend your money.they all come from the same place and no vendor gets a better convertor than the other.this would be fraudulent and tcs is run by a very respectable team that would never allow this.there is no reason for anyone to worry.the warranty is still one year and a free restall and i dont see this changing for the remainder of the 2004 calender year or beyond.9/11s are $575 and $675 for the billet ones.the price will go up slightly over the next few months because of an increase in cost.


ENTIRELY true Chris, the same goes for us except we do not sell the non billet version, not because it isn't a nice piece, I just like the success and durability of the billet converter.I spoke to Rusty yesterday after reading the above post and he did say he would rather not retail because of the hassle, and if he did,the charge would be significantly higher, perfectly understandable and is the industry standard.Our pricing to the customer remains unchanged.
Thanks guys

[Otto J]

we will still stock and sell the same tcs 9/11 convertors as we have been doing all along. the only difference is price and where you decide to spend your money.they all come from the same place and no vendor gets a better convertor than the other.this would be fraudulent and tcs is run by a very respectable team that would never allow this.there is no reason for anyone to worry.the warranty is still one year and a free restall and i dont see this changing for the remainder of the 2004 calender year or beyond.9/11s are $575 and $675 for the billet ones.the price will go up slightly over the next few months because of an increase in cost.

Chris thats a great price on the Billet convertor, If you Go to Bruce's PTS Extreme website he get 799!!!! That 125 cheaper for the same product with the same warranty.
I hope people read this so they dont pay to much.
Otto

[HairDrier]

Chris thats a great price on the Billet convertor, If you Go to Bruce's PTS Extreme website he get 799!!!! That 125 cheaper for the same product with the same warranty.
I hope people read this so they dont pay to much.
Otto

His website says $799 but his post says $1500 :joint: :SHOCKED: :thefinger
For a freaking converter!

[WE4]

His website says $799 but his post says $1500 :joint: :SHOCKED: :thefinger
For a freaking converter!


You need to go back and READ the thread again. PTS prices have not changed as well as Bill or CK's. Rusty did make that quote and if I have to have him come on here and post i will. I did not lie and would not lie. The only difference is if you go direct to TCS, which is what Rusty wants to get away from, those are the prices and warranty issues. It was not me who pissed him off, it was someone who sent something in with ridiculous requests.
You misinterprited what was written.

Bruce
WE4

[HairDrier]

Bruce if your prices are staying the same I did misinterpret it. Thanks for the clarification

[WE4]

OK I admit...
I was wrong. I wanted to convey exactly what Rusty said to me to relay exactly how upset and pissed he was. I should have used more couth and chose a better term to describe. (Than Lick my balls)
I stated what was stated to me and looking back, it was wrong. You guys are right. I should have softened it up and went from there. Me bad.
But like Chris and others have mentioned, haven't we all made or typed a statement that might have felt right at the time but maybe too harsh or outta line later?
Everythnig I stated in that post was correct. I didn't lie about anything. In fact so much I didn't lie, now I am apologizing for saying the absolute and not thinking and toning it down. For this I am sorry. I will not delete it or asterisk it as it is all over everywhere and that would not be right. Please understand the stress level and accept this explanation as it is intended.

Bruce
WE4
PTS XTREME

[4CE FED]

Everythnig I stated in that post was correct. I didn't lie about anything. In fact so much I didn't lie, now I am apologizing for saying the absolute and not thinking and toning it down.

Everything was correct except for this I guess...

"PTS Xtreme Transmissions will have 99% exclusive rights to this 9X11 2004r converter both in regular version or the Billet version. Not Art Carr, not CK Performance, Not ANYBODY anymore. We will provide this converter to wholesale vendors as well as direct to the public. Rusty and TCS Performance wants to deal with one vendor (PTS Xtreme) and distribute from there."

If you're telling us this isn't a lie then how do you explain CK being able to order 911's directly from TCS still :confused:

[HairDrier]

CK along with Bill Anderson, Art Carr and how many other "1%" vendors.

[sskalin]

CK along with Bill Anderson, Art Carr and how many other "1%" vendors.

Thanks for all the gossip folks.
Ok kids, it's time to go back into the class room. so put all the He said she said crap away. Bottom line seems to be the converter is available from atleast 3 different sources, probably more, for a variety of prices. All of which will be cheaper than from the guy who wants his sack licked. :add_schac Soooo, if you are into that type of thing, sack licking, :applaus: , go to the tea bagger. Beyond that, customer loyalty to a particular supplier vs. a desire for a cheaper price for the same product vs. ease of dealing w/ a particular distributor vs self install/dealer install vs. (who the hell knows what) is going to help you make your final choice. :marchmell

Me? I've been for a ride in one GN with some of the Transmission Specialty engraved products and I was greatly impressed with how that f*cker boosted, shifted, and went like stink. AND yes I think the tranny had a lot to do with it. AND no it wasn't my car. Just one my dad happened to be working on. Yes the 9/11 was part of the package. Nice and shiny.
Thanks for the rant. :beerglass :beerglass

Shawn
Two project cars,
86 GN
84 GN
Both trannies and converters suck

[turbotony]

Hey whats up fellas. Just wondering if anybody runs the vigilante converter, don't here to much about them. thanks

[LV GN]

the vigilante converter is a great unit. i have been running one for 4 yrs. when i started running 10's i had to upgrade to the multi disc. might want to get that one if you plan on running that fast and locking up down the track.