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marc86mcss
01-08-2004, 01:15 PM
I hear the K&N oil filters are really good for LS1's. Anybody use them on your buick? What are your opinions guys? :beerglass

raysgn
01-08-2004, 04:32 PM
I've been using K&N oil filters on my GN for about 2 years.
They're more expensive than most ( between 8 to 10 bucks), but who cares.
Ray

Reaper
01-08-2004, 05:22 PM
not worth it IMO

i stick with wix filters from napa or carquest. about 4 bucks and work well!


Dathan

d0n_3d
01-08-2004, 11:38 PM
some guys spend 10 dollars TOTAL on their oil change...i always have used a PF52 ac delco filter...will start using the LARGE ac delco filter with my biggie adapter soon...

Gary Wells
01-09-2004, 05:55 AM
I have always used AC PF52 for my TR'S, as they are one of the least expensive filters that have a anti-drainback feature that I know of. I don't remember the K & N filter having one. So even if it is a marginally better filter, if it doesn't have the anti-drainback, oops.
If it does, and you want to support $ 8-10 filters, so be it.
I don't. I have supported a total of 5 TR'S without a problem that I can trace to oil filter use/brand. Mobil 1 & PF 52 every 3 K miles.

raysgn
01-09-2004, 07:03 AM
The K&N oil filters do have the antidrainback valve.
Ray

turbodave
01-09-2004, 07:32 AM
After years of using every conceivable filter known to mankind (literally). I've finally decided (and use) the Baldwin line of filters. Not every anti drainback valve is created equal :mad: found that out on the WIX and AC Delco filters.

Cars tended to clatter a little upon startup for the first few seconds, after the cars had sat for several days.

The Baldwin B9 is the one for the biggie adapter, and I can't remember right now what the PF52 equivalant is, but will post it when I get home and look at the 87.

They are far superior to anything I've used, have MUCH higher burst strength numbers (not that it's important for the average joe), and have anti drainback valves that actually do what they're supposed to do. They're filter media is as good as the best on the market (3 times what fram has).

Now in the winter months when the cars sit for several weeks in between startups (warmups), I can literally jump in, turn the key and start, and the oil pressure jumps up immediately, and no more lifter clatter.

Bruce
01-09-2004, 10:18 AM
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Turbo Saver, and a WIX tall Chevy oil filter.
Adds almost a quart, and all the filtering surface area you could want, ie very little pressure drop.

SuperSix
01-09-2004, 10:45 AM
Just an observation..

I put a Purolator PureOne (it was on sale, I believed the hype) on my TR, and 4k miles later, replaced it with what I normally use (Either an A/C Delco PF47 or 52).. I was curious, and cut open the filter, looking for anything strange, and noticed the filter media was crushed in one spot. It was still filtering, but I didn't like the look of the media. No foreign items/shavings/metal though. :top:

Is the clatter at startup the lifters? I always thought it was the bearings. Either way, I think I'll try the Baldwin filters.. If you could get the PF47/52 equivalent PN I would appreciate it. I don't have the biggie adapter yet. Where are the Baldwin filters available?

UPDATE: Here's the Baldwin PF52 equivalent (http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/PartSpecification.asp?URL=PartEntry.asp&partnumber=B35-S)

I found them here in Tampa, $4.33 each.
INDUSTRIAL AUTOMOTIVE PARTS
4002 E 7TH AVE
TAMPA FL 33605
813-247-5904

I think I'll try one next oil change. :D

Gary Wells
01-13-2004, 09:25 PM
Anybody know where the Baldwin filters are available in Ca.?

SuperSix
01-13-2004, 09:29 PM
Anybody know where the Baldwin filters are available in Ca.?


The have a locator on their site.. http://www.baldwinfilter.com

whitettype86
01-15-2004, 08:21 PM
I've used the K&N filters in the past on my 87T and was really impress I cut it open and looks like it was really doing its job. Other filters like Ac delco and some off brands u can tell some big chunks of metal could get by and destroy your turbo or engine. I'm not trying to promote the K&Nor Baldwins but it exceeds to 20 microns which is really good. But Baldwins are better at 40 microns. It all depends on u

1of1547
01-18-2004, 11:19 AM
Has anybody tried a System 1 filter. The engine shop that did my work will not use any other brand. $120-135 is a little steep for a oil filter though. But it has a stainless steel mesh that will stop anything.

GrndNatnl
01-18-2004, 11:36 AM
$120 dollars for a frickin oil filter???!!!

Gary Wells
01-18-2004, 11:57 AM
Previously posted by:
"1of1547"
"Has anybody tried a System 1 filter. The engine shop that did my work will not use any other brand. $120-135 is a little steep for a oil filter though. But it has a stainless steel mesh that will stop anything."


1> Just how many "microns" is "anything" equivalent to?
2> Just how much money is your shop going to charge for labor to R & R or clean or replace the stainless steel mesh when it needs an oil change/oil filter change?
3> Is that $120-$135 if you buy the filter system from them or if you but it from least expensive source?
4> If they can't quote any closer than 15%, I wouldn't be using them on my motor anyway.
5> How does this compare to the old "J C Whitney Automotive parts" catalogue that sold the oil filter housing that used a roll of toilet paper as a filtering medium? Just kidding. Couldn't resist that.
FWIW & IMHO: System 1 Filter systems was used by some racers when racing was using full synthenic oil when it about $ 25.00 a quart. It was written up in H R & P H R, I believe in the late 70's, or maybe early 80's.
I think that I am going to stick with PF52 or try K & N or Baldwin, even Wally World can change a normal oil filtter.

EightSecV6
01-18-2004, 04:59 PM
Previously posted by:
"1of1547"
"Has anybody tried a System 1 filter. The engine shop that did my work will not use any other brand. $120-135 is a little steep for a oil filter though. But it has a stainless steel mesh that will stop anything."


1> Just how many "microns" is "anything" equivalent to?
2> Just how much money is your shop going to charge for labor to R & R or clean or replace the stainless steel mesh when it needs an oil change/oil filter change?
3> Is that $120-$135 if you buy the filter system from them or if you but it from least expensive source?
4> If they can't quote any closer than 15%, I wouldn't be using them on my motor anyway.
5> How does this compare to the old "J C Whitney Automotive parts" catalogue that sold the oil filter housing that used a roll of toilet paper as a filtering medium? Just kidding. Couldn't resist that.
FWIW & IMHO: System 1 Filter systems was used by some racers when racing was using full synthenic oil when it about $ 25.00 a quart. It was written up in H R & P H R, I believe in the late 70's, or maybe early 80's.
I think that I am going to stick with PF52 or try K & N or Baldwin, even Wally World can change a normal oil filtter.


We use System 1 filters exclusively on remote mount systems. The long filter is $110 and the shorter one is $95. It will out flow ANY paper filter on the market DEFINATELY! Virtually no pressure drop at all.You can inspect it everytime you change oil to possibly catch a problem before something bad happens. Tey are expensive but you only have to buy it once and it lasts forever. We usually stick the mesh element in the hot tank for 20 mins and then wash it in the parts washer. You should never have to replace the screen unless it gets destroyed for some reason.

Gary Wells
01-18-2004, 05:25 PM
Does that work on other than a remote mount system?

1of1547
01-19-2004, 11:28 AM
The price I quoted was from Jegs. Sounds like Bill has the better price though.

Roger
02-13-2004, 09:58 PM
I use dual 373 filters in parallel on my home brew "turbo saver" setup, they flow at about 18 gal per minute vice about 3 or 4 for the pf47 or 52.

LikeMy6
02-17-2004, 03:53 AM
I use the K&N oil filter. Also have the bypass plugged, no problems yet. Other filters are known to burst when pluggin the bypass.

gnsrule
02-17-2004, 04:10 AM
How does this compare to the old "J C Whitney Automotive parts" catalogue that sold the oil filter housing that used a roll of toilet paper as a filtering medium?

While im not condoneing the use of the JC toilet paper thing i just wanna point out that many heavy equipment mfgrs use a similar filter to protect the pilot hydraulic system. A pilot system usually consists of small spools, orfices and shit that would make a tranny valve body look like kids play.
I just thought id throw that in, something to offset the J.Midolo SMC post count award. Go get em joe. LMAO

mike85gn
02-17-2004, 02:52 PM
I stick with the PF52 myself, no point in changing what works, especially at that cost.