Anyone used DVD Xcopy Platinum?

[jmidolo]

Was reading about it. Looks pretty slick and easy. Anyone use it? Like it/Dislike it?

[kevin turch]

It sucks, i use dvdshrink, its free and lets you do everything dvdxcopy does but alot better.

then to burn i use copy2dvd.

dvdshrink rips also, all in one step, sets to region free and allows you to take stuff out that nobody needs, like spanish subtitles :).

ive used both and must say dvdshrink blows dvdxcopy away.

[jmidolo]

It sucks, i use dvdshrink, its free and lets you do everything dvdxcopy does but alot better.

then to burn i use copy2dvd.

dvdshrink rips also, all in one step, sets to region free and allows you to take stuff out that nobody needs, like spanish subtitles :).

ive used both and must say dvdshrink blows dvdxcopy away.

Good info Kev, thanks. However if you're gonna reply to any more of my threads you're gonna have to trash them fatchicks in your sig!!! :puke:

Gonna have to fire up Kazaa again and find copy2dvd & dvd shrink. :rock:

The thing I hate is my daughter has a TON Of disney movies and other kids dvds..well..they put in like 15 min of freakin advertisements and most of them you can't "Next" out of ..Drives me nuts. Specially when you have a hysterical kid and the only thing that calms them down is Baby Motzart!! LOL

[jmidolo]

It

dvdshrink rips also, all in one step, sets to region free and allows you to take stuff out that nobody needs, like spanish subtitles :).


You using 3.0Beta or 2.3?

[kevin turch]

3.0 beta, that one either automatically picks the best compression, or lets you choose.

Its very nice.

I like those chicks :P

[jmidolo]

3.0 beta, that one either automatically picks the best compression, or lets you choose.

Its very nice.

I like those chicks :P


Can't find copy2dvd.... url?

[kevin turch]

http://www.vso-software.fr/copytodvd_english.htm

And check ur email for something else also.

[jmidolo]

OK, lemme take this one step further. I have a few DVD concerts that I'd like to take just the audio from and burn to CD so I can listen in the car...will this SW do that too and still get good sound quality ?

[earlbrown]

I'll second DVDshrink. It's free and it flat out works. The only movie that It hasn't worked with yet is oceans11. But if you want to rip porn movies apart scene by scene for some killer .mpgs, it's the shit :lickit: .
Oh yeah, it also works good for disney stuff I would assume.

Earl



Edit: If you want to learn more than you could ever want to know about ripping DVD's go to www.dvdrhelp.com It's got listings for all the free tools and guides on how to use them as well.

[SuperSix]

Can't find copy2dvd.... url?


Try this neat little website Joe.. Since you can't seem to find ANYTHING..

ready?

It's called
Google (http://google.com)

:zahn:

[kevin turch]

I'll second DVDshrink. It's free and it flat out works. The only movie that It hasn't worked with yet is oceans11. But if you want to rip porn movies apart scene by scene for some killer .mpgs, it's the shit :lickit: .
Oh yeah, it also works good for disney stuff I would assume.

Earl



Edit: If you want to learn more than you could ever want to know about ripping DVD's go to www.dvdrhelp.com It's got listings for all the free tools and guides on how to use them as well.

Earl, I didnt have a problem with Oceans11, you might of gotten a badly scratched disk, ive noticed dvdshrink is kind of picky with scratched disks.

[jmidolo]

Try this neat little website Joe.. Since you can't seem to find ANYTHING..

ready?

It's called
Google (http://google.com)

:zahn:

Listen fukface :zahn: I was given an incorrect spelling..if I put in copytodvd it comes up fine :P

[jmidolo]

Edit: If you want to learn more than you could ever want to know about ripping DVD's go to www.dvdrhelp.com It's got listings for all the free tools and guides on how to use them as well.


Thanks Earl, I'll check that out.

[kevin turch]

Thanks Earl, I'll check that out.

Very good site, i learned everything i know about copying dvds from that site!!


Also they should be able to tell you how to do that video/music dvd you wanted to do.

[kevin turch]

Also if you have the newest nero, you can use nero recode, its supposadly better than dvd shrink, as far as speed goes, as it does the recoding a bit better.

[HairDrier]

. Specially when you have a hysterical kid and the only thing that calms them down is Baby Motzart!! LOL

Arent those Baby Einstein videos amazing? Those videos single handedly got me through the first year and a half of my daughters life. Now its Dora the Explorer :albert:

[jmidolo]

Arent those Baby Einstein videos amazing? Those videos single handedly got me through the first year and a half of my daughters life. Now its Dora the Explorer :albert:


HAHA, yep! My daughter is 2 1/2 now and out of the Eistein phase. She went from Bugs (Bugs Life), Monsters (Monsters Inc) Shek (Shrek), Lion (Lion King) and now Nemo (Finding Nemo) as she calls them. I think I've seen each no less than 60-70 times! All great movies, but after like the 37th time it gets old. Pretty funny when she was only saying a few words like 4 months ago or so, that she KNEW parts of the movie before it would come up.

One days she starts jumpin and shaking one leg..I'm like WTF is she doing..then Shrek starts kicking mud off his foot :add_wegbr

We've got #2 coming and I'll be ready w/the edited versions off all the Einstein dvds w/no advertisements to piss off a crying kid even more :zahn:

Oh yea, forgot to add...it was a very Dora Xmas...got a ton of Explorer crap lol

[JayC]

I use Cinema Craft Encoder to do almost all my movies.. either with DVD2DVD or "The Big Three." I usually only use DVDShrink when the movie needs less than 10% transcoding. IMO once you go any farther, the picture quaility really suffers with lots of macroblocking and noise in the background.

A note of interest, Nero Recode (Included with Nero 6) was written by the same guy who wrote DVD Shrink and seems to have some features that DVDShrink does not have so if you have Nero 6, grab the latest update and take a look.

Again, tho, with any transcoder, once you start trying to transcode a large amount of video, it looks like crap. CCE doesnt really have that problem. I've reencoded video to about 50% of it's original size and it was difficult to tell the backup from the original.

There are other tools around that also make life much easier doing DVD backups. DVD Stripper lets you remove items all the way down to cell id's whereas DVD Shrink and Recode will only do titlesets. It's very useful for getting rid of say, FBI Warnings, extras you dont want, widescreen or full screen on DVDs that contain both and it usually works without breaking the DVD structure.

[TType85]

For ease of use i've been using AnyDVD (strip CSS) and CloneDVD to do the copies. Its a nice quick way of doing it and until I got a HDTV I couldn't see much difference in the quality of the video after recompression.

I'm going to have to try JayC's way.

Now that I have a HDTV and a good DVD player I'm going more twoards buying the movies I want used. I picked up 3 DVD at blockbuster for $20 last week and they all are perfect. My legit collection is now over 200 movies :)

[kevin turch]

im going to try that nero later, i hear IFO edit is good too, but ive never tried it.

[JayC]

IFOEdit is an authoring/editing tool. It doesnt do any type of transcoding/reencoding. It also doesnt work well with NTSC movies.

[kevin turch]

ahh, i just used nero recode, awesome program!!!

might have to retire dvd shrink

[JayC]

As an FYI, Instant Copy 7 and 8 are also far superior to DVDShrink when the rate of transcoding goes up. None, however, can hold a candle to CCE. However, CCE is not very easy to use and is defintely not a 1 click solution.

[jmidolo]

As an FYI, Instant Copy 7 and 8 are also far superior to DVDShrink when the rate of transcoding goes up. None, however, can hold a candle to CCE. However, CCE is not very easy to use and is defintely not a 1 click solution.


Well, I ordered all my shit. It should be here on Friday so I'll have all weekend to f around with it and will do a bunch of reading up on stuff this week while working hard at work :)

[kevin turch]

i love learning about stuff at work, its the best place to do it :)

[jmidolo]

i love learning about stuff at work, its the best place to do it :)


Yea, where it's nice and quiet. :sleep:

[J Banning]

DVD Shrink rocks. It's free!

You can get it here:
http://www.dvdr-digest.com/software/software.php?file=dvdshrink

[JayC]

DVDShrink, for what it is, is very good. However, as I mentioned above, it has all of the shortcomings of other transcoders and it's transcoding engine, even with the Deep Scan option is still only marginally better than any of the other transcoders. The Recode engine is a bit improved but since the same guy wrote it, there isn't much difference.

The InstantCopy engine is slightly better than DVDShrink, especially when you are having to transcode more than say 10-15%.

Keep in mind that transcoding and encoding are not the same thing either. Encoding will give a far superiour picture than transcoding but isnt nearly as easy to pull off. For movie only, there are some good solutions. DVD2DVD and DVD2DVD-R are both good for movie only. "The Big Three" (DoItFast4U, ReAuthorist and DoCCE4U) are the way to go to do full DVD ENCODING backups. But, there is a pretty steep learning curve if the DVD structure is not really straight forward.

For a test, take LoTR: The Two Towers and transcode it with Shrink or Instant Copy or any of the transcoders and try to watch it. You'll see lots of macroblocking and background noise.. and I mean LOTS.. Take the same movie and reencode it, and if I didnt tell you it was a backup, you probably wouldnt notice.

The only downfall with reencoding is it tends to soften the picture a tad and introduce a small amount of misquito noise.. but, the tradeoff is well worth that IMO and really only noticable when you go over 7GB DVDs.

[jmidolo]

I just talked to a buddy of mine yesterday, he's into audio mixing and such pretty heavily. He just ordered some kickass video editing system. About $20k worth of gear to be exact. I was talking to him about burning dvds single layers and dual layer burners and such. He said this Mac G5 he's getting has a dual layer burner. I guess they aren't as expensive for Macs he was saying. Anyways, I'll have access to a dual layer burner now so I can just bring him a HD with backups on it and have him burn it. Anyone ever hear of the dual layer dvdr being that cheap for macs?

[kevin turch]

didnt even think dual layer recorders are even out yet.

[TType85]

I just talked to a buddy of mine yesterday, he's into audio mixing and such pretty heavily. He just ordered some kickass video editing system. About $20k worth of gear to be exact. I was talking to him about burning dvds single layers and dual layer burners and such. He said this Mac G5 he's getting has a dual layer burner. I guess they aren't as expensive for Macs he was saying. Anyways, I'll have access to a dual layer burner now so I can just bring him a HD with backups on it and have him burn it. Anyone ever hear of the dual layer dvdr being that cheap for macs?


We need a BS Flag smiley. Dual layer drives are coming out in the + Format first, in march supposedly. The - ones are a bit behind. There is talk that some of the 8x+ drives will be able to burn dual layer with a mod to the drive. (sure hope the Plextor/TDK 8x will do that :D )

The "SuperDrive" for the mac is a rebadged Pioneer, which you can get cheaper for the pc. Mac really doesnt support the + format (Jaguar supposedly ads some support).

[jmidolo]

We need a BS Flag smiley. Dual layer drives are coming out in the + Format first, in march supposedly. The - ones are a bit behind. There is talk that some of the 8x+ drives will be able to burn dual layer with a mod to the drive. (sure hope the Plextor/TDK 8x will do that :D )

The "SuperDrive" for the mac is a rebadged Pioneer, which you can get cheaper for the pc. Mac really doesnt support the + format (Jaguar supposedly ads some support).


Yea, I thought the same thing too, this guy has everything though and always the latest and greatest so I wouldn't doubt it. Used to own the company I worked for, Had one of them I can't remember the name, PCs that have a built in LCD w/KB, mouse and all back in like 1990 when the cost $10k. I dunno, I'll wait to see it, I guess it's coming in about a month or so.

[JayC]

Maybe he's getting a dual FORMAT drive. The dual layer format has not even been finalized yet. I expect the MPAA is going to do everything it can to slow down dual layer burning.

[TType85]

Maybe he's getting a dual FORMAT drive. The dual layer format has not even been finalized yet. I expect the MPAA is going to do everything it can to slow down dual layer burning.


Dual Layer burning + NetFlix = teh win!

:goldcup:

[JayC]

Down the road, yea.. but I bet dual layer media will cost so much, it will be cheaper to buy the DVD than it will be to rent it and copy it.

[jmidolo]

Only thing I could find on the net...


http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/10/07/dvdr/

[earlbrown]

Earl, I didnt have a problem with Oceans11, you might of gotten a badly scratched disk, ive noticed dvdshrink is kind of picky with scratched disks.


The disk is new. But what get's me is when I remove all the extras and then set up to shrink, I get different audio tracks as the movie progresses. It's the only one's that's done that to me.
I also keep using the old version of DVDshrink. It's got less bells and whistles.


Earl

[earlbrown]

I was thinking it wasn't physically possible to make a duel-layer burner. The way i understand it, the duel layer is exactly that, it's two discs glued together. If you look at the side of a dvd-9 disk, you can see and feel the edges.

Earl

[JayC]

The disk is new. But what get's me is when I remove all the extras and then set up to shrink, I get different audio tracks as the movie progresses. It's the only one's that's done that to me.
I also keep using the old version of DVDshrink. It's got less bells and whistles.


Earl
Oceans 11 is a documented PITA DVD to back up. You'd probably be better off using something like DVD Fab to strip it down to main title only and if you get rid of the DTS track (Assume it has one) you can probably fit it on one DVD with minimal compression.

I have this DVD downstairs.. never unwrapped it. Maybe Ill grab it later and have a go at it.

[earlbrown]

Oceans 11 is a documented PITA DVD to back up.
I have this DVD downstairs.. never unwrapped it. Maybe Ill grab it later and have a go at it.

I own it too. I just got "lucky" when I grabbed that disk to teach myself how to copy.


Earl

[jmidolo]

dvdshrink rips also, all in one step, sets to region free and allows you to take stuff out that nobody needs, like spanish subtitles :).

ive used both and must say dvdshrink blows dvdxcopy away.

OK, I've finally got enough shit off my plate that I can start to F' around with this now...so I got DVDShrink and am gonna give it a crack..stay tuned :)

[jmidolo]

OK, I've made my first coaster.... Used DVDShrink to rip out all the crap and did just the main movie...then used Copy2DVD to burn...or should I say..to make a coaster...