Is this enough for mid/low 10's?

[1of1035]

Long story short, I fell into a deal on a 45a so now I'm changing alot on the car to match the turbo. I'm really hoping for low/mid 10's out of this combo. I've done some research and have decided on my final combo before I start buying everything. Heres the list: TE-45a, 72#er's, ATR double pumper, 16 pos ME, 9/11 3800 l/u, alky and Cotton's FM. The rest of the stuff on the car is alrady done from my old combo. I'm also using ATR's 214/208 cam. Is this enough to meet my goal? Anything you would change? I'm open to any ideas. TIA

[JayC]

Theoritically, it should be enough if you can launch the car. I'd take a long look at your bottom end tho if you're going to be pushing it that hard.

[1of1035]

Theoritically, it should be enough if you can launch the car. I'd take a long look at your bottom end tho if you're going to be pushing it that hard.

Bottom end has been built already. I'm also going with steel caps and a girdle.

[NJTURBO]

Are the heads and intake ported.

Also like Jay said put some insurance on the bottom end. :top:

[1of1035]

Are the heads and intake ported.

Also like Jay said put some insurance on the bottom end. :top:

heads and intake are ported. I'm also going to buy one of the champion intakes to replace the stock one

[R.MERRITT]

More than enough for 10s. Looks like a pretty good plan to me.

[1of1035]

Thanks guys. I forgot to mention that this is a daily driver. The only car I own actually so if there is anything I can switch for better street manners please let me know.

[R.MERRITT]

One thing I would recommend is a Max Effort R chip for that combo. I built a friends car almost just like that and it runs pissa on the street. You shouldn't have any problems with drivability.

[1of1035]

One thing I would recommend is a Max Effort R chip for that combo. I built a friends car almost just like that and it runs pissa on the street. You shouldn't have any problems with drivability.

I heard that because the ME-R is a MAFless chip it affects the drivability cause at first I was going with the ME-R. Then switched to the ME 16 pos instead.

[R.MERRITT]

I have the R with NO drivability problems at all! 83# injectors, BB70Q, 3500 9/11. I can drive it anywhere getting 20+ MPG. Steve Y has the R nailed for drivability. Don't believe everything you hear. I'll never go back to a MAF.

[1of1035]

I have the R with NO drivability problems at all! 83# injectors, BB70Q, 3500 9/11. I can drive it anywhere getting 20+ MPG. Steve Y has the R nailed for drivability. Don't believe everything you hear. I'll never go back to a MAF.

Sounds good then. Thanks alot :applaus: . This is why I wanted to put up a thread on everything before I start buying.

[JayC]

I was thinking more along the lines of putting some good rods in the engine. High 10s, youre okay with stockers. Mid/Low 10s on stock rods is a little dicey. The girdle is going to keep the crank in place so the next suspect item is going to be the rods.

[R.MERRITT]

I thought the rods were pretty tough. I'm running mid/low 10s without even a girdle just billet centers. Just finished the bottom end of my new engine with a girdle and plan on running high 9s with it. As long as I keep the revs under 6500 I think they'll be ok. It is balanced and has JE pistons with floating pins that will help in the weight reduction thus helping the rods a bit.

[shoebox]

In theory you should be able to go 10's. Update us, once you go to the track with all the new stuff. Chances are, you will have to relearn how to drive and tune your car, before you get a 10 second slip. Also, don't forget about suspension.

[1of1035]

In theory you should be able to go 10's. Update us, once you go to the track with all the new stuff. Chances are, you will have to relearn how to drive and tune your car, before you get a 10 second slip. Also, don't forget about suspension.

I know the tuning will be completely different. I'm hoping I'll have everything done by the Bradenton meet. Speaking of suspension, who did you get that rear sway bar from at the last meet? How much?

[Turbo6]

I know the tuning will be completely different. I'm hoping I'll have everything done by the Bradenton meet. Speaking of suspension, who did you get that rear sway bar from at the last meet? How much?


I also have the ME-R with 83's and a 70bbQ trim with no drivability issues at all.

[BUICKTR]

Will the stock turbo crank hold up and be reliable to many low 10 second passes assuming the tune is good and no detonation. Or is it time to upgrade to a forge or billet crank in the 109 block. :fragez:

[jsta6]

who did you get that rear sway bar from at the last meet?

Sorry to hijack, but I hope you aren't talking about MY swaybar!!! :banghead:

[shoebox]

Sorry to hijack, but I hope you aren't talking about MY swaybar!!! :banghead:

No. He is talking about the new H&R Parts'N Stuff anti-roll bar that I bought, I believe LAZ still has your ATR bar. :zahn:

[shoebox]

Will the stock turbo crank hold up and be reliable to many low 10 second passes assuming the tune is good and no detonation. Or is it time to upgrade to a forge or billet crank in the 109 block. :fragez:

I say the stock crank will hold up. Hell, the second fastest TSM car, has a stock crank. There is also a slew of people in the mid 10's or faster with a stock crank. It is all in the tune. :top:

[denn454]

engine wase you should be pretty close assuming your at a low altitude. i'm not seeing a few very important things though. whats been done to the tranny? i'd give a stock tranny a week with that setup. also tires? slicks, et streets that would be my first choice, or some good drag radials, they are running 8's on some dr's so you should be fine there.

also you might want to concider moving the battery to the back just to help out with the weight a bit, you can never have too much traction.

[tweaked]

Depending on cam selection and CR you might find the converter a little tight for a 231.

Good luck & have a nice day.

LC

[1of1035]

Cam is a atr 214/208 and the tranny is going under a full rebuild in a few weeks. For tires I have M/T et streets and goodyear slicks. Both 27 inch tires.

[Brien]

I thought the rods were pretty tough. I'm running mid/low 10s without even a girdle just billet centers. Just finished the bottom end of my new engine with a girdle and plan on running high 9s with it. As long as I keep the revs under 6500 I think they'll be ok. It is balanced and has JE pistons with floating pins that will help in the weight reduction thus helping the rods a bit.

Get the Manley catalog - they're in New Jersey .

Might call Hank & shoot this past him as for Rods.

Nicely conditioned Factory rods with Arp bolts
should be ok - but if it were my cash - a set
of Race Con Rods would be in the case .

:gost:

[REDS TTYPE]

nothing wrong with stock crank rods and pistons :zahn:

stock rod bolts are good too long as they have sps on the end of them

I think it will et well but if you want high mph switch the cam lobes around :yessir:

[NEARING]

nothing wrong with stock crank rods and pistons :zahn:

stock rod bolts are good too long as they have sps on the end of them

I think it will et well but if you want high mph switch the cam lobes around :yessir:

When you going to be up and running again?

[REDS TTYPE]

When you going to be up and running again?

the buick wont be for long while yet but the turbo 6 powered elcamino should be rolling by spring :joint:

my 4 wheeler wont fit in the back of the buick :zahn:

[bumpin_records]

well i know i got a lot of info from this thread. thanks to all of you guys cause see i have a 96 firebird. jsut put a 2000 front end on it and im gonna put a grand nationa motor in it. Yeah the new turbo trans am.lol lol

Well i wanna go low 10's mabe 9's and im hearing a lot of guy are doing it with stock blocks. well i see that you can so i see i need to get steel rods, billet caps and im wandeing should i go with a steel eagle crank are they any good? Is it really worth it getting a girdle? i need to know what kinda management system can i go with can i do it with out a dfi and fast system if so tell me what and where i go to get it. what size turbo i need note this is my weekend car and i will drive it on the street to hunt for mustangs and v8 trans am's. They wont know what hit them when these guys out here go by what your car sound like. By time the hear the turbo the money will be locked up and i will be waiting at the finish line. Again you guys been a lot of help THANKS and you can feel free to email me with ideas also at bumpin_records@yahoo.com