Methanol, but not acetone?

[DCEPTCN]

Okay, I was just curious why ethanol and propane, etc. are used but not acetone, acetylene, etc.? Why wouldn't they work?

[DCEPTCN]

Okay, how about cat piss? Anybody know about that?

[HairDrier]

Acetylene is great if you dont mind blowing up in a car accident. Unlike propane is can burn at just about any concentration, and it must be kept in higher pressure bottles than propane

Acetone is corrosive like methanol, it would kill pumps and it probably has fewer BTUs so it is a less effective fuel would be my guess.

[DCEPTCN]

Acetylene is great if you dont mind blowing up in a car accident. Unlike propane is can burn at just about any concentration, and it must be kept in higher pressure bottles than propane

Acetone is corrosive like methanol, it would kill pumps and it probably has fewer BTUs so it is a less effective fuel would be my guess.DFinally, the smart guy shows up! Thanks, I kinda considered things to be be a little more closely related than that....thanks for clarifying.

[Razor]

Why not hydrogen peroxide, nitromethane, nitrous, etc :deal:

I'm content with alcohol. I'll be happy to hear results from other experimenters. I'm plenty fast so I dont need any other adder's' at this time.

120.78 MPH with a 100% bone stock IC and a full tank of 93 octane Gas.

[DCEPTCN]

Why not hydrogen peroxide, nitromethane, nitrous, etc :deal:

I'm content with alcohol. I'll be happy to hear results from other experimenters. I'm plenty fast so I dont need any other adder's' at this time.

120.78 MPH with a 100% bone stock IC and a full tank of 93 octane Gas.My intention here was not to be a wise ass, but to see if anybody had experimented with anything else......I really would think that SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE has screwed around a little....maybe got tanked and dumped some Everclear in, or something? :zahn:

[SMC]

My intention here was not to be a wise ass, but to see if anybody had experimented with anything else......I really would think that SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE has screwed around a little....maybe got tanked and dumped some Everclear in, or something? :zahn:

Denatured Alcohol=Grain Alcohol=Everclear. They just add a bit of "denaturant" to make it non-drinkable.

[DCEPTCN]

Denatured Alcohol=Grain Alcohol=Everclear. They just add a bit of "denaturant" to make it non-drinkable.
Why would anybody want to make alcohol non-drinkable? :zahn: So, are you saying that Everclear could, technically, be used? I know that any suger content would be disatrous and would immediately be worried of some natural sugar content in a meant-for-consumption alcohol like Everclear......I know damn well that Lynchburg Lemonade would be a no go. :add_wegbr

[SMC]

Lessee...Everlear is what? 200 proof? =100% grain alcohol, no room left for sugar! :SHOCKED:

But it'd be pretty $$$ to use it!!!

[DCEPTCN]

Lessee...Everlear is what? 200 proof? =100% grain alcohol, no room left for sugar! :SHOCKED:

But it'd be pretty $$$ to use it!!!Well, alot of my friends have always given me a hard time because I only put Evian in the radiator, that would be even funnier....but I don't think I'll go that way!

[1badTTA]

Lessee...Everlear is what? 200 proof? =100% grain alcohol, no room left for sugar! :SHOCKED:

But it'd be pretty $$$ to use it!!!
Not if you live in the hills and your uncle has a "Hobby" if you know what I mean.

About the only things I can think of that would be worth trying are Nitromethane and Compressed Natural Gas, but with the current kits available I really don't see a need for anything other than what is currently being used which is Methanol, Denatured alcohol, and Propane. If you need anything else you should probably be looking into Nitrous Oxide.

[HairDrier]

The blue RC fuel from hobby shops has a significant amount of nitromethane in it, but I think its $20 a gallon

[HairDrier]

Oh yeah Evian in the radiator is a little overkill, since distilled water is only about a buck a gallon

[DCEPTCN]

Oh yeah Evian in the radiator is a little overkill, since distilled water is only about a buck a gallonYep, but I love that car...it's the principal of the thing. Don't get me wrong, when the wife buys bottled water I get all over her case about it!

[1badTTA]

The blue RC fuel from hobby shops has a significant amount of nitromethane in it, but I think its $20 a gallon
yea but it is about 30% Castor Oil and some Methanol too I think.

Be better off going to a racefuel supplier and spend $40 for a gallon of 100% Nitormethane and then just mixing a few ounces per gallon and see how well it works. I am positive it would have a good effect if done in moderation.

[HairDrier]

But too much = BOOM
Be careful if anyone decides to try this

[Taffy]

Why not hydrogen peroxide, nitromethane, nitrous, etc :deal:

I'm content with alcohol. I'll be happy to hear results from other experimenters. I'm plenty fast so I dont need any other adder's' at this time.

120.78 MPH with a 100% bone stock IC and a full tank of 93 octane Gas.

There was a guy on the TB.com a while back, Derek was his name. He has since gotten a Supra. Anyways, he is/has experimented with hydrogen peroxide. Not sure the outcome of that one.

His latest experiment is cutting out the intercooler and using alky for the intercooling. Liquid intercooling at its best. He wants to shoot it into the turbo, as well as into the intake piping. I am not down with shooting into the turbo inlet.

He has lots of threads on www.supraforums.com

[DCEPTCN]

There was a guy on the TB.com a while back, Derek was his name. He has since gotten a Supra. Anyways, he is/has experimented with hydrogen peroxide. Not sure the outcome of that one.

His latest experiment is cutting out the intercooler and using alky for the intercooling. Liquid intercooling at its best. He wants to shoot it into the turbo, as well as into the intake piping. I am not down with shooting into the turbo inlet.

He has lots of threads on www.supraforums.com
I'm unfamiliar with what hydrogen peroxide's benefits would be...is it better for cooling than water?

[HairDrier]

Its pretty explosive in high concentrations. Thats what the Navy used to use to propel torpedoes :dong:

[Razor]

Its pretty explosive in high concentrations. Thats what the Navy used to use to propel torpedoes :dong:

Torpedos.. way cool. can you mount a turbo on a torpedo.. Like a 200MM turbo.. :joint:

:albert:

[DCEPTCN]

Its pretty explosive in high concentrations. Thats what the Navy used to use to propel torpedoes :dong:Holy moly! I guess that makes sense....when I'm thinking of it, I'm thinking of the bottle you get at the grocery store....but what is that, about 1%?

[1badTTA]

Hydrogen Peroxide is H2O2, in other words it is water with an extra oxygen molecule attached.
By using Hydrogen peroxide instead of water you are adding more oxygen to the mix similiar to nitrous oxide which allows you to add more fuel and make more power.

And yes, the stuff you get at the store is 1-2%. I have seen 35% and it is rather dangerous and extremely corrosive.

[DCEPTCN]

Hydrogen Peroxide is H2O2, in other words it is water with an extra oxygen molecule attached.
By using Hydrogen peroxide instead of water you are adding more oxygen to the mix similiar to nitrous oxide which allows you to add more fuel and make more power.

And yes, the stuff you get at the store is 1-2%. I have seen 35% and it is rather dangerous and extremely corrosive.
Just curious, where would one purchase this 35% stuff?

[1badTTA]

Just curious, where would one purchase this 35% stuff?
A chemical supply store would be my guess. We had it at work for some reason, I am guessing you would need a permit or license of some sort to buy it though.

You could probably get it at the same place you get your Nitric Acid and Toluene :rock: :rock: :pedro: :saevil: :undwech:

[DCEPTCN]

A chemical supply store would be my guess. We had it at work for some reason, I am guessing you would need a permit or license of some sort to buy it though.

You could probably get it at the same place you get your Nitric Acid and Toluene :rock: :rock: :pedro: :saevil: :undwech:
I don't know about the permit/license, there are alot of hazardous chemicals out there that have no prerequisite for purchase other than being 18 years old. Then again, I never would have guessed the more concentrated hydrogen peroxide would be so nasty, either. The beauty of these cars is how easily they can be modified without compromising comfort and reliability...to me, messing around with over the top methods like that is just not easy or reliable.

[1badTTA]

I don't know about the permit/license, there are alot of hazardous chemicals out there that have no prerequisite for purchase other than being 18 years old. Then again, I never would have guessed the more concentrated hydrogen peroxide would be so nasty, either. The beauty of these cars is how easily they can be modified without compromising comfort and reliability...to me, messing around with over the top methods like that is just not easy or reliable.
I know you can make a nice boom with household chemicals but if you didn't notice, I listed the ingrediants for TNT. Alot of chemicals like nitric acid are highly regulated for a good reason. Hell, go try to buy 20+ bags of amonium nitrate and see what happens.

[milehighGN]

Dont know about any of you.....what if there is something out there that is already proven to A:) work well and B:) not hurt your motor in any way.......why even try to "experiment". Alcohol is way cheap anyways.