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Bruce
04-30-2006, 04:07 PM
Has anyone converted to an Air Bag suspension on their TR?.
Has anyone riden in a Air Bagged Car, and if so, how was it?.
SinistrV6
05-01-2006, 01:24 PM
I've ridden in several bagged cars and trucks (but never a TR) and the right was VERY nice. My '36 is bagged but it hasn't moved under it's own power yet...
Bruce
05-01-2006, 05:12 PM
I've ridden in several bagged cars and trucks (but never a TR) and the right was VERY nice. My '36 is bagged but it hasn't moved under it's own power yet...
Arrgh, running one is just getting so tempting. The idea of being able to dial things in, with a dash mounted switch is just really appealing. Especially as bad as some roads are in some of the Urban areas.....
Thanks, that's one vote on the positive side.
Zoliaster
05-01-2006, 07:44 PM
I vote NO!!!! I just spent a good chunk of change on coilovers (got the fronts, was going to hold off on the rears but ordered them today) and now your going to come up with something better?? Quote "arrgh!" Quote!!!!!!!:D
P.S. Bruce are you AKA Doc1of7?
Bruce
05-01-2006, 07:49 PM
I vote NO!!!! I just spent a good chunk of change on coilovers (got the fronts, was going to hold off on the rears but ordered them today) and now your going to come up with something better?? Quote "arrgh!" Quote!!!!!!!:D
P.S. Bruce are you AKA Doc1of7?
Dunno about better, but I do experiment, allot...
I thought everyone knew that?, yes.
Also, know as Grumpy, but there's a few of them.
Zoliaster
05-01-2006, 08:29 PM
How about something like this? I'm sure you could adapt it to fit the QA1s or the Varishock (Hint Hint) if it looks any good.
"TEIN's EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller) makes it possible for the driver to control the damping force (front and rear) by controlling a motor installed on the shock absorber while being seated in the driver's seat. Since the damping force can be manually controlled with ease from the cabin, the driver can enjoy variations in the suspension settings on the fly."
"Easily control damping force from the cockpit.
Digital read-out for clear viewing of current setting.
Easy install. All wires are marked for clarity!
Dampening changes on the fly for instant suspension tuning.
Contents of EDFC Controller kit:
EDFC Controller x1, Stepping motor x4, Complete wiring harness x1, Power harness x1, Mounting hardware kit x1, Click tool wrench x1, Gold hex screws x4, Installation kit x1. "
GregInATL
05-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Ive seen MANY Air Ride Tech system cars on Road Atlanta. If you didnt know it was air ride, you'd never guessed it, they handle well, are very predictable, and tunable. If I had the coin, I'd do it w/ quickness. Remember this is NOT the same as "layin frame" air ride. This is a tuned set-up for maximum drop AND ride quality.
Bruce
05-01-2006, 11:20 PM
"Easily control damping force from the cockpit."
I was more conserned with height adjustment.
Yes, having adj shocks from the dash sounds neat.
Bruce
05-01-2006, 11:21 PM
Air Ride Tech system
Found there home page but there's nothing listed for the G-Bodies......
HYBRID-T
05-01-2006, 11:55 PM
I'm gathering all of the parts as we speak. Air Ride Technologies makes a Cool Ride kit for our cars HERE (http://www.ridetech.com/productinfo/coolride.asp), but I'd really like to see a ShockWave kit with the dual adjustable built in shocks. Give me a couple of months and I'll let you know.
Adam
Bruce
05-02-2006, 06:50 AM
I'm gathering all of the parts as we speak. Air Ride Technologies makes a Cool Ride kit for our cars HERE (http://www.ridetech.com/productinfo/coolride.asp), but I'd really like to see a ShockWave kit with the dual adjustable built in shocks. Give me a couple of months and I'll let you know.
Thanks!
Not as bad as I was thinking it would be, at $549....
They have me curious about repositioning the shock, and then being able to turn the car much...
GregInATL
05-02-2006, 09:03 AM
$549 doesnt include valves compressor, lines, or tank, thats just the front kit. The Air Ride rep told me at the YR1 Experience 2 weeks ago, plan on $2,000 to get it up and running (front and rear). The cool ride and shock wave are both available for us, There is a pic of one on air here;
http://www.hzemall.com/our_gallery/installs/1987_buick_gn/cover.htm
Bruce
05-02-2006, 11:39 AM
$549 doesnt include valves compressor, lines, or tank, thats just the front kit. The Air Ride rep told me at the YR1 Experience 2 weeks ago, plan on $2,000 to get it up and running (front and rear). The cool ride and shock wave are both available for us, There is a pic of one on air here;
Thanks...
Not often someone can ruin my day, that well, LOL
Yikes that adds up in a hurry.
SinistrV6
05-02-2006, 01:37 PM
Yep, it's pricey. Add Shockwaves instead of a bag/shock set up and you hit the 2 grand mark BEFORE adding the compressor system! I had shockwaves originally but went to a bag/shock set up because the Shockwaves wouldn't go low enough.
Keep in mind also that air ride suspensions are fun to "slam" for looking cool when it's parked or for low-speed cruising but there is still only one "ride height" where all of your geometry is where it is supposed to be for safety, tire wear, etc.
Bruce
05-02-2006, 03:10 PM
but there is still only one "ride height" where all of your geometry is where it is supposed to be for safety, tire wear, etc.
Ya, 10-4 on that.
GregInATL
05-04-2006, 12:11 PM
Its much cheaper for me to do 1" springs, 2" spindles, and scrape the air dams off, and replace them semi annually at $75 each. Thats called
"Ballin on a budget" in my area....One day I'll do bags and truly go big time.
Until then, Scraaaaaape.
Bruce
05-04-2006, 06:22 PM
Its much cheaper for me to do 1" springs, 2" spindles, and scrape the air dams off, and replace them semi annually at $75 each.
I've done that, but with 1.5" springs for years, it's not at all a bad combo..
Using the dropped spindles with the Coil over setup might have saved having to cut the springs.
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